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		<title>Comment on Why Obama Might Be Terrible by crabtree</title>
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		<dc:creator>crabtree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Criticizing Tom Vilsack for not doing enough to stop the explosion of industrial hog confinements while Governor is fair, although reasonable people can and should debate that point.  I&#039;ll say this, his Department of Natural Resources actually turned into a regulatory agency under Vilsack, and permits were actually refused.  Moreover, Vonk, his DNR director was not universally embraced when Vilsack named him but by the time current Iowa Governor Chet Culver ousted him CAFO opponents were up in arms (probably because they knew that Culver and Lt Gov Patty Judge would install a conventional ag patsy).

I guess my point is, on CAFO issues, Vilsack was far better than both the Repub that proceeded him (Branstad) and the Democrat that followed him (Culver)... I admit, however, those are not difficult beauty contests to win.

Vilsack was crucial in winning the passage of livestock market reform legislation in Iowa that I worked on in 1999.  In fact, I still have one of the pens that he used to sign the bill.

Compared to the other folks on the short list, Vilsack is head and shoulders better than the field and past Secretaries of Ag.  Vilsack has a mind, a voice and a pulse... might not always agree, but he&#039;ll have something to say.

Glickman - lights on, no one home... talking, but no pulse
Veneman - total corporate sell out
Buis, Stenholm - how would these two be any different than Glickman, if not worse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Criticizing Tom Vilsack for not doing enough to stop the explosion of industrial hog confinements while Governor is fair, although reasonable people can and should debate that point.  I&#8217;ll say this, his Department of Natural Resources actually turned into a regulatory agency under Vilsack, and permits were actually refused.  Moreover, Vonk, his DNR director was not universally embraced when Vilsack named him but by the time current Iowa Governor Chet Culver ousted him CAFO opponents were up in arms (probably because they knew that Culver and Lt Gov Patty Judge would install a conventional ag patsy).</p>
<p>I guess my point is, on CAFO issues, Vilsack was far better than both the Repub that proceeded him (Branstad) and the Democrat that followed him (Culver)&#8230; I admit, however, those are not difficult beauty contests to win.</p>
<p>Vilsack was crucial in winning the passage of livestock market reform legislation in Iowa that I worked on in 1999.  In fact, I still have one of the pens that he used to sign the bill.</p>
<p>Compared to the other folks on the short list, Vilsack is head and shoulders better than the field and past Secretaries of Ag.  Vilsack has a mind, a voice and a pulse&#8230; might not always agree, but he&#8217;ll have something to say.</p>
<p>Glickman &#8211; lights on, no one home&#8230; talking, but no pulse<br />
Veneman &#8211; total corporate sell out<br />
Buis, Stenholm &#8211; how would these two be any different than Glickman, if not worse?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A first post&#8230; by Should we look forward to Obama? &#171; Whiskey Burn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Should we look forward to Obama? &#171; Whiskey Burn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we look forward to&#160;Obama?   Published October 31, 2008   Uncategorized       In the comments section a short time ago, I was asked by the pork lover John Crabtree the following: So, riddle me this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we look forward to&nbsp;Obama?   Published October 31, 2008   Uncategorized       In the comments section a short time ago, I was asked by the pork lover John Crabtree the following: So, riddle me this [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should you vote for John McCain? by John Thacker</title>
		<link>http://whiskeyburn.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/mccain/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>John Thacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;With news like this, you have to think there’s not all that much to look forward to, at least on the agriculture front.&lt;/em&gt;

Or with &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.dtnprogressivefarmer.com/dtnag/common/link.do?symbolicName=/ag/blogs/template1&amp;blogHandle=policy&amp;blogEntryId=8a82c0bc1cb6339b011d2ca8306b050c&amp;showCommentsOverride=false&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;news like this.&lt;/A&gt;  Or &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/cdp_20081023_6773.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;news like this.&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>With news like this, you have to think there’s not all that much to look forward to, at least on the agriculture front.</em></p>
<p>Or with <a HREF="http://www.dtnprogressivefarmer.com/dtnag/common/link.do?symbolicName=/ag/blogs/template1&amp;blogHandle=policy&amp;blogEntryId=8a82c0bc1cb6339b011d2ca8306b050c&amp;showCommentsOverride=false" rel="nofollow">news like this.</a>  Or <a HREF="http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/cdp_20081023_6773.php" rel="nofollow">news like this.</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on My question to you. by Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

Strangely, life after Cuba is leading me to… Nebraska (rarely can two destinations promise equal opportunities of tropical appeal).  As I was about to take you up on your offer of hospitality in the sandy state, I discovered that you are no longer with CFRA.  However, the CFRA site kindly led me to your blog.  Congrats on Graduate school in Ohio.  What is the lucky subject of interest?  I’m currently in your fellow battleground state of Missouri working with the Obama Campaign.
So, the aforementioned Omaha move is tentatively set for June.  With seven months to job search, I would love your input on worthwhile organizations.

By the way, Arrested Development is my happiness in life.

Stay in touch – Lisa  lisakissing@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Strangely, life after Cuba is leading me to… Nebraska (rarely can two destinations promise equal opportunities of tropical appeal).  As I was about to take you up on your offer of hospitality in the sandy state, I discovered that you are no longer with CFRA.  However, the CFRA site kindly led me to your blog.  Congrats on Graduate school in Ohio.  What is the lucky subject of interest?  I’m currently in your fellow battleground state of Missouri working with the Obama Campaign.<br />
So, the aforementioned Omaha move is tentatively set for June.  With seven months to job search, I would love your input on worthwhile organizations.</p>
<p>By the way, Arrested Development is my happiness in life.</p>
<p>Stay in touch – Lisa  <a href="mailto:lisakissing@gmail.com">lisakissing@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on My question to you. by AEL</title>
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		<dc:creator>AEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was listening to NPR as I was driving 7 hours east today (slowly making my way out of corn country -- but I will return hahahaha), and they were talking about how Congress got so many calls because -- basically what Dan said -- people are pissed off, are having a visceral reaction, and are wanting revenge -- before the House failure to pass the bailout, people were really mad at Wall Street. They might still be, but it seems that things have calmed down. 

I think people have this type of reaction at local and state levels to specific issues (the CAFO fight around these parts comes to mind) but it is rare to have it on the national scale. I don&#039;t think that it is just one specific pressure point -- it&#039;s a mix of factors coming together that are hard to recreate, but the key here I think is to either tie other issues (like ag and food) to issues that people care about (the economy), or/and see an opportunity when it comes and guide peoples&#039; emotions so that they are taking action that forwards the issues we fight for.

Maybe the take home message is to get people really mad, emotional, visceral, and use those reactions to political benefit. But that&#039;s nothing new; the Republicans have that tactic down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was listening to NPR as I was driving 7 hours east today (slowly making my way out of corn country &#8212; but I will return hahahaha), and they were talking about how Congress got so many calls because &#8212; basically what Dan said &#8212; people are pissed off, are having a visceral reaction, and are wanting revenge &#8212; before the House failure to pass the bailout, people were really mad at Wall Street. They might still be, but it seems that things have calmed down. </p>
<p>I think people have this type of reaction at local and state levels to specific issues (the CAFO fight around these parts comes to mind) but it is rare to have it on the national scale. I don&#8217;t think that it is just one specific pressure point &#8212; it&#8217;s a mix of factors coming together that are hard to recreate, but the key here I think is to either tie other issues (like ag and food) to issues that people care about (the economy), or/and see an opportunity when it comes and guide peoples&#8217; emotions so that they are taking action that forwards the issues we fight for.</p>
<p>Maybe the take home message is to get people really mad, emotional, visceral, and use those reactions to political benefit. But that&#8217;s nothing new; the Republicans have that tactic down.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My question to you. by SDRL</title>
		<link>http://whiskeyburn.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/my-question-to-you/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>SDRL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This could be a great case study in organizing. What was it about this particular situation that caused thousands of people to randomly call their legislators without a lot of planning or education? It didn&#039;t take years of emails and engagement to get people to act about this bailout. I think media coverage helped...Farm Bill was rarely on the front page above the fold for a week at a time. But there must be something more that is capturing people&#039;s undivided attention. Is it because this issue affects people&#039;s own personal finances? Does it have to do with their homes? Their jobs? What is the exact pressure point that this issue seems to have hit? 

And more importantly, could we replicate the response with a select group of people who care about different issues besides this bailout?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be a great case study in organizing. What was it about this particular situation that caused thousands of people to randomly call their legislators without a lot of planning or education? It didn&#8217;t take years of emails and engagement to get people to act about this bailout. I think media coverage helped&#8230;Farm Bill was rarely on the front page above the fold for a week at a time. But there must be something more that is capturing people&#8217;s undivided attention. Is it because this issue affects people&#8217;s own personal finances? Does it have to do with their homes? Their jobs? What is the exact pressure point that this issue seems to have hit? </p>
<p>And more importantly, could we replicate the response with a select group of people who care about different issues besides this bailout?</p>
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		<title>Comment on My question to you. by RP</title>
		<link>http://whiskeyburn.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/my-question-to-you/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>RP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The experts are all over the board on this one. The are hundreds of economists on all sides of this issue with respected economists calling for a trillion dollars right away, others saying wait, hold up, let&#039;s slow down and analyze what really needs to be done and yet other economists calling the whole thing a crock of shit. 

Additionally, and I don&#039;t have to tell you all this, but this instance aside, &quot;experts&quot; almost always reinforce the status quo or at least one or maybe two prevailing views. That&#039;s how they got their privileged &quot;expert&quot; hat in the first place - by saying the same thing that all the other perceived experts say. 

Finally, and I&#039;ve said it before, it disgusts me that government money is further subsidizing the consolidation of the banking industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The experts are all over the board on this one. The are hundreds of economists on all sides of this issue with respected economists calling for a trillion dollars right away, others saying wait, hold up, let&#8217;s slow down and analyze what really needs to be done and yet other economists calling the whole thing a crock of shit. </p>
<p>Additionally, and I don&#8217;t have to tell you all this, but this instance aside, &#8220;experts&#8221; almost always reinforce the status quo or at least one or maybe two prevailing views. That&#8217;s how they got their privileged &#8220;expert&#8221; hat in the first place &#8211; by saying the same thing that all the other perceived experts say. </p>
<p>Finally, and I&#8217;ve said it before, it disgusts me that government money is further subsidizing the consolidation of the banking industry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My question to you. by AEL</title>
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		<dc:creator>AEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two comments.

1 -- So where does this leave your comment about leaving these types of decisions (financial bail out, climate change) in the hands of experts? What happens when people call their representatives, the representatives listen, and it flies in the face of &#039;experts&#039; and the people in power? Some of the commentary I&#039;ve heard was from representatives who supported the bailout and had this &#039;well, if people had more information, really knew the details, then they would pass this bailout&#039; tone. But &#039;the people&#039; won&#039;t ever be as informed as people in power think they should be. Where&#039;s the line? Where is the knowledge of the few and informed good enough to represent the best interest of the many?

2 -- I had a conversation today with someone who works on ag policy issues in the midwest and got into the issue of the value of working on federal ag policy outside of the beltway. We agreed that it was both necessary and good and that the world does not only revolve around the inner workings of DC -- although there is a place for that, too, obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two comments.</p>
<p>1 &#8212; So where does this leave your comment about leaving these types of decisions (financial bail out, climate change) in the hands of experts? What happens when people call their representatives, the representatives listen, and it flies in the face of &#8216;experts&#8217; and the people in power? Some of the commentary I&#8217;ve heard was from representatives who supported the bailout and had this &#8216;well, if people had more information, really knew the details, then they would pass this bailout&#8217; tone. But &#8216;the people&#8217; won&#8217;t ever be as informed as people in power think they should be. Where&#8217;s the line? Where is the knowledge of the few and informed good enough to represent the best interest of the many?</p>
<p>2 &#8212; I had a conversation today with someone who works on ag policy issues in the midwest and got into the issue of the value of working on federal ag policy outside of the beltway. We agreed that it was both necessary and good and that the world does not only revolve around the inner workings of DC &#8212; although there is a place for that, too, obviously.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My question to you. by crabtree</title>
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		<dc:creator>crabtree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just to be clear, that last comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, it will be important for Hubler to raise money, but if he beats King it will be because he works his ass off and King doesn&#039;t even show up in the district anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just to be clear, that last comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, it will be important for Hubler to raise money, but if he beats King it will be because he works his ass off and King doesn&#8217;t even show up in the district anymore.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My question to you. by crabtree</title>
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		<dc:creator>crabtree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, could not agree more.  And I, for one, am sick of settling for the crumbs from Congress&#039; table.

Just to let you know, my good friend Rob Hubler got put on the DCCC&#039;s red to blue list for competitive races a few weeks back (he&#039;s the guy running against Steve King).  Now you know what I think of the DCCC, and calling them every week for the last three months has been a true test of friendship.  But the reason they added Rob to their competitive races list is because he is polling within 5 points of King and closing.  All about raising money now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, could not agree more.  And I, for one, am sick of settling for the crumbs from Congress&#8217; table.</p>
<p>Just to let you know, my good friend Rob Hubler got put on the DCCC&#8217;s red to blue list for competitive races a few weeks back (he&#8217;s the guy running against Steve King).  Now you know what I think of the DCCC, and calling them every week for the last three months has been a true test of friendship.  But the reason they added Rob to their competitive races list is because he is polling within 5 points of King and closing.  All about raising money now.</p>
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